You Can be GIFTED and Still Not Be SPIRITUAL | Interview With Pastor Tony Shirley

Sep 11, 2026 • Brother Micaiah Young

In Podcast Episode 171 we interview Pastor Tony Shirley of the New Manna Baptist Church who is also the host of I Believe The Book podcast. We interview him on spirituality vs spiritual gifts and the importance of having both.

Can someone be spiritually gifted and still be far from God?

In this conversation, Pastor Tony Shirley explains the dangerous difference between spiritual gifts and true spirituality—and why character, the fruit of the Spirit, and a genuine walk with God matter more than talent, influence, or platform.

We discuss:

• Spiritual gifts vs. spirituality

• Warning signs of performing spiritually

• Why visible results do not always equal God’s approval

• Character vs. talent

• Biblical examples of gifted people who struggled spiritually

• How to develop a real walk with God

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